Patrícia Campos Mello – on Brazil's Ambitions, Its Presidents, and What She Saw in the War in Ukraine
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Patricia Campos Mello is a journalist from Brazil and a war correspondent who covers international relations and human rights in more than 50 countries around the world. She is also the author of a series of investigations during the elections of former president Bolsonaro, including one about the use of messaging apps to spread propaganda and disinformation. In recent years, Campos Mello has reported from Syria, Iraq, Libya, Turkey, Lebanon, and Kenya.
She first arrived in Ukraine after the beginning of the full-scale invasion in 2023. At that time, her focus was on the lives of Ukrainian civilians during the war and the war crimes committed by the Russian army. She returned to Ukraine in March 2025. This time, for ten days, Patrícia traveled along the front line to understand how the Russia-Ukraine war differs from traditional, conventional wars. Her visit coincided with the announcement of a partial ceasefire after negotiations between the US, Ukrainian, and Russian delegations, which were held separately in Riyadh. After this statement, Campos Mello expected to see celebrations in Ukraine, similar to the final of the FIFA World Cup. However, there was no euphoria in the country about the partial ceasefire.
Journalist Nataliya Gumenyuk talk to Patricia Campos Mello about what she saw on the front lines and what interests Brazilians about life in Ukraine, Brazilian diplomacy and its desire to have a larger influence in global geopolitics, the current president of Brazil, Lula, and former Brazilian president Bolsonaro, who is close to Trump, and the wariness of Latin Americans towards the military.
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